Ethereum founder Vitalik recently proposed a deep reflection on the existing DAO model. He believes that although the DAO concept is important, the current DAO designs generally have serious flaws.
At present, most DAOs adopt a model where token holders directly vote on decisions—seemingly democratic but fraught with problems. This mechanism is not only inefficient but also easily manipulated by large holders, ultimately becoming a tool for concentrated power, and it cannot fully address the inherent weaknesses in human political decision-making. For this reason, more and more people are beginning to feel disappointed with DAOs.
Vitalik pointed out that better-designed DAOs should take on substantive functions. For example, building more reliable oracle systems, establishing on-chain dispute resolution mechanisms, maintaining various blacklists and whitelists, rapidly launching new project ecosystems, and ensuring the long-term stable operation of projects. These are the true applications of DAOs.
In his analytical framework, he introduced a contrast model of "convexity" and "concavity" to evaluate different governance structures—providing a new perspective for assessing the strengths and weaknesses of DAO designs.
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DAOdreamer
· 16h ago
Veteran in the crypto circle, doomscrolling every day, the fantasy about DAOs has long been shattered. Now hearing Vitalik say this, it still feels heartbreaking. The big players have already ruined these projects.
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BlockDetective
· 16h ago
Honestly, right now DAO is all about the big players calling the shots. What's the use of democracy?
V God finally spoke out this time, but no one listens.
Convexity? Sounds impressive, but in reality, governance is still terrible.
After all this time, it's still a power game? Laughable.
Oracles, blacklists—sounds like patching holes, but the fundamental issues haven't been solved.
The ideal of DAO is dead; now it's just a shell for power struggles.
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LightningSentry
· 16h ago
It makes some sense. Currently, these DAOs are indeed a mess. Big players' words are law, and democracy is a joke.
V神 still understands. He's much more clear-headed than those who constantly hype the DAO revolution.
Oracles and dispute resolution are the real strengths of DAOs; don't waste time on superficial stuff.
The concepts of convexity and concavity sound complicated, but simply put, the existing models are indeed fractured.
Really want to see if any project dares to reconstruct governance based on this idea...
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GasGoblin
· 16h ago
The big players call the shots, democracy has become a joke, and I'm already tired of this routine.
That's right, now DAO is just about who holds more tokens, it's really ironic.
Convexity and concavity? Can they solve the problem of big players cutting the leeks?
I just want to know who will regulate these people with the power to speak, is it nested dolls?
Instead of researching new models, it's better to clean up the current mess first.
It feels like Vitalik is being honest; the illusion of democracy in DAO should be shattered.
Compared to voting weight, I'm more concerned about when true decentralization will happen.
This is what Web3 needs to hear, not those marketing brainwashings.
Having ideas is one thing, implementing them is another.
So, at this stage, DAO is still an experiment, far from maturity.
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HalfIsEmpty
· 16h ago
Basically, it's just big players cutting leeks, disguised as a DAO.
DAO = a tool for the big players to manipulate, that hits hard.
Why bother with real functions again? First, disperse voting rights.
Convexity, concavity, sounds very professional, but it's really just about changing the architecture.
Wow, finally someone said it out loud. I've long thought that today's DAO is just a joke.
Token voting system, the rich always win, that's common sense.
Vitalik didn't just talk nonsense this time; he hit the nail on the head.
Let's wait and see which DAO can truly achieve the functions he mentioned.
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BugBountyHunter
· 16h ago
We've been talking about DAO democracy for so long, but in the end, it's still the big players calling the shots... Someone should have exposed this facade long ago.
Token voting is just a power game in disguise, it's really funny.
Vitalik's idea is good, but DAO needs to get down to real work.
It's the same old theory, but the key question is who has actually implemented it?
Oracles, dispute resolution—these are the real tasks DAO should focus on, not just empty talk.
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AirdropHunter
· 16h ago
To be honest, today's DAOs are just big club gatherings disguised as democracy, hilarious.
Someone should have said this earlier; token voting is a joke.
Vitalik has once again played around with convexity and concavity concepts, okay then.
The crypto world is always hyping concepts; not a single real governance mechanism has been properly implemented.
Blacklist for oracles—these are the real work, much more interesting than voting.
Wait, does this mean the salvation of DAOs has already been found?
Decentralization or centralization—it's really hard to tell now.
Ethereum founder Vitalik recently proposed a deep reflection on the existing DAO model. He believes that although the DAO concept is important, the current DAO designs generally have serious flaws.
At present, most DAOs adopt a model where token holders directly vote on decisions—seemingly democratic but fraught with problems. This mechanism is not only inefficient but also easily manipulated by large holders, ultimately becoming a tool for concentrated power, and it cannot fully address the inherent weaknesses in human political decision-making. For this reason, more and more people are beginning to feel disappointed with DAOs.
Vitalik pointed out that better-designed DAOs should take on substantive functions. For example, building more reliable oracle systems, establishing on-chain dispute resolution mechanisms, maintaining various blacklists and whitelists, rapidly launching new project ecosystems, and ensuring the long-term stable operation of projects. These are the true applications of DAOs.
In his analytical framework, he introduced a contrast model of "convexity" and "concavity" to evaluate different governance structures—providing a new perspective for assessing the strengths and weaknesses of DAO designs.